Gideros Forum

wow! thanks! yarly!!! i use IntelliJ IDEA and this is very very very very USEFUL!!!!!

thanks!. :)>-
Gianluca.

The pastie link is a site that lets you paste code snippets. His link doesn't redirect you to anything else.

Sure, no problem :)

If i missed anything just let me know. The lua plugin developer is supposed to be adding inheritance and some other nice features in his next update that will make it even better.

pastie.org is just my favorite pastebin like site (I like the dark theme). It's not a link shortener or anything. It wouldn't let me just attach the file here or I would have done that.

I used some regex and some manual editing to create it, but if Gideros used Doxygen documentation, we could auto generate the API needed. Wonder if they would be receptive to switching or adding it to the site.

FAIL!
I am so tired about software where you have fiddle around to get it work. I will skip this.

After installing the LUA plugin, I got the attached error.

@atilim

It needs a more raw format. Here's an example for Moai:

http://pastebin.com/WHh8FMsS (the documention that comes up with quick help in intellij and code completion)

http://pastebin.com/ZvUud6wy (the api that goes with it)

Those can be generated from doxygen documentation using this: https://github.com/Odie/dox2intellij

I think your internal documentation could be used instead as well with quick script to pull out the bits needed and formatted into something Intellij can read. The lua plugin creator has a page on how to properly format it here: https://bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Setting_Up_Custom_Documentation

After it's parsed out and generated, the lua plugin for intellij would have no problems reading it. Would just need to add it via the directions here: https://bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Setting_Up_Custom_API's

If you guys are able to work it out and have the time, that would be awesome, but if not and you can supply all the documentation in a plaintext way like that somewhere on the site, I wouldn't mind taking a crack at making a parser I would share with everyone to easily update it for every new API release so we can keep using it in Intellij without manual editing.

@MikeHart

No idea why you got an error offhand. The plugin isn't perfect, but it's still very useful and worth trying if one prefers having an IDE. Perhaps see it was submitted to the maintainer's bug reporter on bitbucket? He actively maintains the plugin and fixes things.

How slow is it? Compare it to Eclipse. It'll be slower than native IDEs, since it's Java based. Are you using the latest, non beta?

It also runs with java 6 by default (internal jre it comes with), but you can force it to use java 7 if you have it installed. Java 7 is a bit faster.

Have you disabled/removed any plugins you do not need? I know that can bring the speed down as there are a ton of them.

Yeah, it's way faster for me as well (former eclipse convert to Intellij and eclipse was much slower). Using Kubuntu 11.10, Core i7 920, 16GB RAM + SSD drive.

It's slow on my Netbook , but I would be shocked if a Java based IDE wasn't.

Still can't get that damn LUA plugin to install. Do you know any other free editor that has a decent function list (on the side of the code) and can be customized to handle the syntax of gideros? That is all I need.

MikeHart said:

Still can't get that damn LUA plugin to install. Do you know any other free editor that has a decent function list (on the side of the code) and can be customized to handle the syntax of gideros? That is all I need.

How are you installing it? Are you doing it from the plugins area under settings in intellij? Don't get it from the bitbucket link if that's what you're doing. See attached png for details.

Eclipse would probably work as it has a Lua plugin, but I never tried the Lua plugin myself.

zakkwylde said:

So, I shall ask the question.

Is everyone jumping ship from the Gideros IDE and going 3rd party?

Cheers

I think most would agree Gideros having its own ide is really great, but also that adding features we can use to make better apps is probably more important to most people than a slightly better IDE, when we can use a 3rd party if necessary in the short term.

The ide as is for me is sufficient so far, but I'm looking into the IntelliJ route as well, although I have the same slowness problem as GregBUG.

edit: @GregBUG I had the same problem with 2-4 sec lag on typing. I installed 11.0.2 again from yarly's link here http://devnet.jetbrains.net/docs/DOC-1228 and it seems to have fixed the problem. It's the second one, I almost got tricked into downloading the ultimate version :)

GregBUG said:

the main feature that i like to see in gideros ide is "functions list browser"...
very very handy for large projects... (is the major reason that i installed intelliJ)...

shhht, don't mention it. They know that already because I bugged them so many times.

:D

avo said:

@MikeHart your problem might be from trying to install it manually? It worked for me from going through the Plugin menu in IntelliJ. It's simply called "Lua" and has a lot of downloads.

Thanks, I might give it another try.

So, what do I do with that pastie link above?

MikeHart said:

So, what do I do with that pastie link above?

I saved it as a lua file and put it into a folder then I added that folder following the directions shown in the screenshots here: https://bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Installing_a_Custom_API

It works adding to "Kahlua" for me, even though I installed Lua 5.1.4 first since I thought I had to.

Ok, got it working. Thanks for all the help. =D>

@GregBUG Is it still full speed for you? I downgraded to 11.02 and it was fast for a bit but now its real slow again, weird.

I see you are using 10.5.4 I'll try that next if yours is still working :)

Just a few random things with intellij if anyone finds it useful:

A good font for it:

http://chrisrickard.blogspot.com/2010/03/dina-font-for-visual-studio-2010.html (set the font to size 12 for optimal use).

Attached is the custom theme I made for it for anyone that would like to try it(you will have to rename the .txt file back to .jar and then import it into intellij). I like dark themes as they're easier on the eyes :)

If anyone is interested, I could write up a small "how to" tie gideros into intellij so you can build your apps with it (for testing) like you would on their IDE with intellij's command line tools.

I am interested, but do you mean something besides saving you from clicking back to gideros and hitting play?

Thanks evs. I probably would have gone that route too for building if I currently was not using mainly windows and would like to avoid their methods of scripting for the OS, lol.

@avo
Intellij has the ability to set up custom command line tools using http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/creating-a-command-line-tool.html and http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/creating-and-editing-run-debug-configurations.html. In short, you can build a project with it, launch the gideros player or run the android emulator/ios simulator or whatever.

I'll write something up less abstract though that shows how to work with gideros in it so having the gideros IDE open isn't needed.

The one hangup with Intellij and running things is using the Gideros Player itself. Putting stuff on android and iOS goes okay with command line tools, but having it launch locally to the player, I don't think can be done without a small script with vbscript or applescript to send the proper keystrokes.

It's odd the player doesn't accept running an app as an argument to run it like Moai, LOVE or Corona do, but it doesn't. I'm not quite sure how it runs it when you click play exactly in GiderosPlayer as no packets seem to be sent from the tcp connection the GiderosIDE makes with the player.

yarly said:

The one hangup with Intellij and running things is using the Gideros Player itself. Putting stuff on android and iOS goes okay with command line tools, but having it launch locally to the player, I don't think can be done without a small script with vbscript or applescript to send the proper keystrokes.

It's odd the player doesn't accept running an app as an argument to run it like Moai, LOVE or Corona do, but it doesn't. I'm not quite sure how it runs it when you click play exactly in GiderosPlayer as no packets seem to be sent from the tcp connection the GiderosIDE makes with the player.

From what I heard, there is some data transfered to the player. Maybe you are watching the wrong ports.

Has anyone made anymore progress with this?