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if you port your android app to blackberry playbook you can get a free playbook offer ends march 2
http://us.blackberry.com/developers/tablet/playbook_offer2012.jsp

hebbes

Nice, but when I test the gideros app for compatibility, I'm getting errors like:

5 uses-access-native com.giderosmobile.android.player.AudioDevice
5 uses-access-native com.giderosmobile.android.player.JavaNativeBridge

all the time.

Any hints?

MikeHart

Here is your hint:

http://www.giderosmobile.com/forum/discussion/409/port-your-gideros-android-app-to-the-blackberry-playbook#Item_5

It is because of the NDK usage I understood. The Playbook doesn't like apps that use the NDK.

OZApps

Despite that, the app will still upload to the simulator or the device, but it does not run. That is a bit odd.

atilim

Hi @OZApps,

If I have time, I'll plan to implement a minimalist NDK OpenGL application and try to run it playbook simulator. If it works, then there is a hope :)

falo

This page nicely outlines all the things you CAN'T do with the BB android re-packaging:
https://bdsc.webapps.blackberry.com/android/apisupport

I would definitely side with the hopeful on this though as you can see what's already supported through the Playbook native SDK here: https://bdsc.webapps.blackberry.com/native/beta/documentation/oss.html

I've just been using Cocos2d-X to port an app over and it's been pretty painless. If Gideros could greate a playbook native SDK project output the pain would be even lower (as I wouldn't have just had to relearn C++ ;) ).

atilim

Thank you :) it seems, C/C++ support of playbook is really great and more painless compared to Android.

(btw, did you use playbook version of cocos2d-x or android version of cocos2d-x?)

OZApps

so there is no way to *convert* the android apk build into a playbook android build in the immediate future, right? or can we hold our breath, Atilim? Nice opportunity to have the Made with Gideros logo flashing on Playbooks, even if they were owned by the developers themselves :)

gorkem

BB is going down, down, down. All reports (Jupiter, Gartner etc) are pointing out the foreseen feature for RIM. I'd say we'd focus on adding another (desktop) platform support, what do you think, Jayant?

OZApps

I do not mind a free PlayBook in leu of making an app, I mean if you place a dollar value of $200 on it, it is still more than expecting users to buy your app and make $200 after all the cuts from the marketplace, etc.

On a more serious note, as you asked, RIM was THE telco in the past, they slipped, and they fell and they cannot get up. If they have a massive production line of tablets that will proliferate the market either as free or as paid devices, then there will be a market, as long as there is a market, there will be a potential for sales. RIM have changed from their earlier proprietary system with AIR as a platform for development to including other languages and Android compatibility, they will change further to try and hang on. Desperate times will demonstrate desperate measures. I mean Nook released a 8 GB model to compete with Kindle Fire.

It is anyone's guess, if developers accept it the ecosystem lives... and then it thrives. Who knows how things turn out soon.

falo

atilim said:
(btw, did you use playbook version of cocos2d-x or android version of cocos2d-x?)

Playbook version with the release cocos2d-1.0.1-x-0.11.0 from the cocos2d-x site. Blackberry do seem to have their own git copy of cocos2d-x and I can't for the life of me work out why ...

As for the longevity of RIM ... well, I mainly started doing this port to get a Playbook. I don't WANT one, but I was going to get a cheap interim tablet anyway until the droid ones are up to a certain level, so this works out well. I also thought it might be interesting to explore a new market. I think it's certainly worth looking at how things pan out in the next few months. They've been absolutely rammed with apps from people thanks to this latest offer. I doubt it'll turn around the fortunes of the Playbook, but maybe it'll build up enough of an app base to give the Playbook 2 a fighting chance. On the handset side ... well, I don't want to go back to a BB, but many of my friends seem to swear by them so maybe there's still an opportunity there.

unlying

It will be BB10 soon. May be RIM is going down, but blackberry developers earns much( http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8305522/Developer Economics 2012 - VisionMobile.pdf ). They put all for BB10 and may be it will be good. May be not, but people who owns bb devices has money.

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